I think the most
thing that excited me mostly was when
they put a man
on the moon.
The marvelous part was
going to bed at night
and looking up at the moon
and thinking,
“There’s a man out there!”
It was marvelous, I thought.
Well, my name is Myfanwy Lavie.
I was born in Perth, WA,
on the 27th of July,
1924
My mother was Yvonne Levy
and she had been a nurse.
A good mother and I look back on,
these days,
I realized she was very strong.
I didn't at the time of course.
Theone, my sister,
was a quiet sort of child.
No trouble.
I was more trouble.
I know
not very much of my father.
His name was Ernest Brown,
and he worked at Parliament House.
I did have a brother who died early,
My mother called him Athelstan
because she thought he might be a doctor
and Athelstan Brown sounded rather good.
We thought that was very funny.
My grandfather,
who was a very successful tailor,
he bought this wheat farm
which was a failure.
And I remember a big pile of wood
and the dog used to
climb up that pile and fetch a snake,
and he threw it up in the air
to break its back.
I remember that.
My mother didn't go shopping as now.
There was the the back and egg man,
the vegetable Chinese man.
There was the milkman.
Things were delivered and we’d put a pail
out the front door
with some money underneath it.
The milkman would come along
in a horse and cart,
rather like a chariot,
and he'd fill the milk pail up,
and the horse would amble
along to the next house, because he
was used to it.
Sounds medieval to me.
I can remember my great grandmother,
Grandma Howard.
She was married to a piano...
he had a piano warehouse in Sydney.
And, I was very fond
of my great grandmother.
I was about 12 when she died.
And my grandmother
used to spend time
at the piano warehouse,
and she learned how to tune the piano.
So she played the piano all her life,
and she used to tune it herself.
She was wonderful.
She had six girls and two boys,
and she packed everything up
and the whole family
would go to the beach.
Cottesloe.
They would complain
bitterly that they didn't want to go.
When they got there,
they had a great time.
My parents separated
when I was eight years old
and we left Perth and came to Melbourne.
I went to Caulfield Central School.
It went to grade six at primary school,
but it had two extra years.
Two years of high school,
but I did them as a primary school.
And that was the end of that
because we were very short of money
and I went to work then.
I regret I didn't have more education.
That's probably the biggest regret
I could think of.
I had the impression when I was young
that everybody was short of money
in the Depression.
Everybody.
I remember
my mother putting water in the milk
to make it last, you know.
That's about all.
I mean, we had a very,
you might say, a hard physical life,
but it was happy.
And we were not poverty stricken,
but we just had to watch our money very,
very carefully. That's about all.
As long as you're working, you can cope,
you see?
And all the children were working too.
My mother
worked as a dental nurse
so that she was able to care for us.
Looking back on it
she was a strong woman.
They were not actually divorced
until years later,
but they were separated.
But people looked down on
as a failed marriage.
It must have been hard for her.
I don't know why,
but she kept moving to different flats.
I don't know why, except
maybe she was looking
for something better.
Something better.
We lived in Caulfield,
we lived in Malvern and also St Kilda.
but we liked living in St Kilda.
next door to St Moritz
ice skating rink in Alfred Square.
We had a lovely view right across the
the bay from where we were
and I went skating.
There are my skates there.
I think I won them.
I don't know how I did,
but I think I won them.
My sister and I went skating a lot.
She was very much better than me.
I played with two little French girls,
and I was absolutely enamoured by
their language
and their formality.
They were very formal and I thought, oh,
I’ll learn that language.
That's so such a beautiful language.
And I used to go to school
practicing a French R, because I knew
that was the difficult hurdle.
We used to go to the Saturday
matinee at this cinema.
We called them
‘the pictures’ in those days
and during the film
someone came out onto the stage
and told everyone
that war had been declared
in England, which meant we too
were at war.
Here is the Prime Minister of Australia,
the Right Honorable RG Menzies.
Fellow Australians.
It is my melancholy duty to inform you
officially
that in consequence
of a persistence
by Germany in her invasion of Poland,
Great Britain has declared war upon her,
and that as a
result, Australia is also at war.
I was surprised of course.
That’s me, not the others,
not the rest of the land.
But we wondered
what on earth would happen.
But it affected us nowhere
like it affected England.
Now way, no way.
I didn't have any male members
of the family who went to the war,
but one.
And he came home safely.
So I don't have the
feeling that a lot of people have.
I was unaffected in that way.
We used to see headlines in the paper:
so many German bombers were shot down.
We used to read those numbers
as if it were a jolly sport.
You know, last night it was so many;
the night before it was fewer.
Oh, you know, that was...
But I was very young, you see.
It's amazing really.
But...
it was much like the depression,
you know, shortages, queues...
I had some some nice jobs.
I worked
at the
Alliance Insurance for a long time,
which was interesting.
Shorthand, typing, office work.
I suppose going to England
changed my life.
Most of my friends settled down
like my sister,
got married and had children.
But I took a different path, you see.
Those little
decisions
change your whole life.
And I'm very,
very glad that I did, too.
I look back on my discoveries
with great pleasure.
I think I was about 26 or 7.
I was working for an insurance company
in the city,
and someone
told me she was going to England.
She told me all about it
and I thought, well,
I'm not going to Queensland
for my holidays.
I'm going to England.
I only kept diaries
when I was travelling.
My friend
Laurie
said it was good for you
psychologically to keep a diary.
So I thought,
good thing, Laurie,
I'll definitely do that.
And I made up my mind to do it,
and I
kept it religiously.
Even though I was fed up with it,
I've kept the diary going,
Most people stretched
out on the deck chairs
looking like white faced corpses.
And there was six girls in a cabin
in the second or third class...
in the bottom of the ship, and
we went through the Suez Canal.
There was no air conditioning,
and it was horribly hot.
And people took
a pillow and slept on the decks...
because of the heat.
We stopped at Algiers.
I remember that was interesting.
The Casbah.
Occasionally we
saw wealthy Moorish men and women.
They looked too romantic for words.
All wear white.
And the men
wear a headpiece
like a sheikh - made of voile.
Yesterday
there was a live classical concert.
Joan Sutherland,
the winner of The Sun Aria sang.
She is very good.
I was not a tourist
because tourism wasn't...
I don't think it was mentioned
much those days...
Tourism hadn't hadn't taken off at all.
But I was too busy, too greedy,
looking for
interesting places and historic...
And I liked history,
so of course it suited me.
When we arrived in London,
to say I was excited
would be an understatement.
I had some friends who had gone ahead.
I was looking for a girl’s hostel,
you see, and they gave me an address
in Chelsea.
I went to
the address and I found a bomb site.
It breaks my heart to see the bomb
damage though.
Every time I see one
I feel how dreadful it must have been.
There was bomb damage everywhere.
It wasn't cleared up.
Well it was cleared up,
but it was evident all around St Paul’s.
There were blocks of bomb damage.
They were well fenced off and you’d
look down into the basement.
I remember seeing a tree
growing in the basement.
They'd suffered great...
Much more than we could imagine, I think.
We found another hostel
where we stayed for a few years.
A girl’s hostel.
There were quite a few Australians
in this hostel.
This hostel is very strict,
lights out at 10:30 p.m.
We have a horsehair mattress,
washstand with large drawers
and a small wardrobe.
Wonderfully cheap compared with flats
and other digs.
We'd have a bath every fourth night.
You were allocated a time, you see.
You could use the bathroom
every fourth night.
And another thing, it had
flat irons to iron your clothes.
Can you imagine that?
Bath night was a big deal.
I can tell you.
And sometimes you could,
if you were careful,
you could sneak a bath in when no one,
you know...
When someone finished early or so...
but it was funny.
Sitting on the landing
on the first floor,
I took a chair and sat by the window
and watched the snow.
They thought...
the English
people, girls
they thought that was very funny.
But it was so lovely to see it
falling on the chimneys
and the roofs.
Something new for me.
It was snowing lightly when I got up.
White roofs and a pretty little church
with its spire rising in the mist.
Snowing heavily as we leave London.
29th of March.
I’m writing on the train
and it's snowing heavily.
The boat was delayed indefinitely
owing to the weather.
22nd April,
we had to lift
with three other hitchhikers
by an amorous young Frenchman.
He took us there for the fun of it.
He would have taken us anywhere.
I said.
“Je ne comprend pas” to everything.
Well, I got this au pair job, you see.
That was a great experience.
I wrote to them
and said I was used to children,
which I wasn't.
There were two families,
sharing this country house for a holiday.
The husbands were working,
and they'd come home
for the weekend.
There'd be a big fuss
made when the husbands came home.
The food was improved.
Everything was right.
The house was right on the Atlantic,
not far from Mont Saint Michel.
It was right on the beach
and the tide went out kilometers
and came in fast.
I had about five children, I think.
4 or 5.
They were very formal,
but they were little devils as well.
The oldest one was Dominique.
And that's why
my daughter's called Dominique.
I used to have to bath them at night.
They'd have black oil
on their soles of their feet
from the oil from
the ocean washed up on the beach.
But I'd have to wash them
all in the same bath.
One after the other.
Funny.
Dinner time,
the mother would walk
round the table
putting the children's
wrists on the table.
She said that's the French fashion.
And she said,
not like the sneaky English.
Which,
looking back on it [was] pretty...
All of their wrists were on the table.
We’re always told to put
them on our lap, aren’t we?
7th September
We rounded Cape Leeuwin
and there was a terrible storm.
Difficult to write.
Such seas we have had.
The ship went over to 38 degrees.
Half the furniture on the ship is broken
25 people went to hospital.
78 casualties.
We sat on the ground and played cards.
And then the furniture
careered across the lounge at
break neck speed.
And when I finally got home,
stepped on Australian soil,
the best thing about
it was no more diary!
He was French.
Oh yes, he was very French.
Yes, he was a cartoonist in Paris.
But he painted as well.
And my flat is full of his paintings.
See? Watercolours.
I used to go to the Alliance Française
to learn French.
And I heard about a little club in
Hardware Lane.
It was very small, just upstairs over
a shop.
Four men playing cards.
They played Belote.
Any Frenchman knows what Belote is.
And, they put down their cards promptly
and took us to
a cafe in Elizabeth Street
where they served red wine
in coffee cups.
Now the French hadn’t
been there very long,
but they knew where to find
red wine.
So that was where they where we met.
And we were married three months later.
But we made love
before we married, nevertheless.
Oh, it's hard to say.
I just liked him.
Coup de foudre,
that’s what they call that.
I wanted to be married in a church.
Henri wasn't too keen,
but he didn't mind.
He was Catholic,
but he didn't go to church.
I don't think he had much time
for anything like that.
So
that was the end of my churchgoing days.
We lived in East Melbourne.
And then we just bought a house
in Richmond
and that's where Dominique was born.
I would have had a second child.
but Henri wasn't that keen
so that was that.
He was a kind person,
a bit volatile,
but underneath it all,
no matter
how difficult he was,
I always knew
he was a kind person, a good person.
So I used to be understanding.
We had our ups and downs
so I can assure you
but it’s all worked out in the end.
I suppose I was very forbearing
but I was determined
to have a happy marriage.
I put that first above,
thinking of Dominique's
point of view really looking back on it.
Which I should have.
But it
it was a good marriage, really, you see.
It was in Victoria Street, in what is now
Little Vietnam,
and it was called “La Seine”
after the river.
Because Henri knew a lot of French people
and a lot of the French
were chefs in those days.
The chef did the cooking,
Henri did the front of room.
I was a waitress.
And one day a man, he’d been watching me
all the time and I wondered why.
And he said,
“I want to buy this restaurant.”
I said, “Well, it's not for sale,
but I'll get my husband.”
Well, he bought it straight away.
And we sold it for a good price.
We bought a shop in the market.
Now it was in the dead end of the market,
near Therry Street.
No one had used that end at all.
But we took a risk
and we bought it and we sold paté, quiche,
fresh cheese and French products.
Tinned things.
And it was very successful.
There was a shop, very small,
with one woman, and she only sold butter.
She had a big square of butter.
She would chop off a piece
and wrap it up.
And she had an apron with
her knees apart and the change in her lap.
And she’d give you the butter.
She must have weighed it,
I didn't remember that.
And give you the change.
That was a shop.
A shop!
I like classical music.
Playing the piano.
I used to like playing Chopin
in particular.
But
when I got married, I didn't have time for it.
I gave it up.
I used to play the Minute Waltz.
I could play that in a dark room without,
without seeing anything.
Henri,
I never called him Henry.
I didn't like Henry.
He died in 1987.
He was 69.
I felt like a ship without a rudder
when he died.
After Henri died,
I went travelling again
and I liked the Middle East.
I did some wonderful tours:
Iraq, Iran, Syria,
Tunisia, Morocco.
Travelling really was marvelous.
I enjoyed it so much.
I think, I've lived through
the best years, really.
I'm interested in things
about me.
People, family.
I'm just interested in life.
That’s the best part.